tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post7119418893665190741..comments2023-09-27T07:39:16.834-04:00Comments on No Matter How Small: Banging my head against the wallAureliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13691032415028867902noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-72705632989274819702007-08-17T11:39:00.000-04:002007-08-17T11:39:00.000-04:00Yes, they are just guidelines for transfers but th...Yes, they are just guidelines for transfers but the majority of clinics in the US follow them I think. At U of Iowa, they have very rigid guidelines!littleangelkisseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04140422279498772797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-50769713502470192292007-08-17T11:37:00.000-04:002007-08-17T11:37:00.000-04:00Oh good Lord! Thank you for putting up with that,...Oh good Lord! Thank you for putting up with that, I'd have smacked him!littleangelkisseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04140422279498772797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-14893922787252595792007-08-17T11:11:00.000-04:002007-08-17T11:11:00.000-04:00I have heard of people with IVF having "extra" emb...I have heard of people with IVF having "extra" embryos when they go for a scan - I was under the impression that either some eggs got left behind or they had sex just before egg retrieval but there was then some sperm hanging around for eggs that got left behind. I may be completely misunderstanding this (I have never done IVF) but I did think that this used to happen - but doesn't now - and it wasn't <I> all </I> due to identical twinningDrSpousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07259337858075146058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-40714969776931251672007-08-16T22:26:00.000-04:002007-08-16T22:26:00.000-04:00You go girl. If they are that clueless, maybe it w...You go girl. <BR/><BR/>If they are that clueless, maybe it would be a good idea to put together something in writing-- IVF for 5 year olds or politicians. Just saying.Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745262857388007041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-9854969430871505592007-08-16T18:21:00.000-04:002007-08-16T18:21:00.000-04:00Hi There,Sent here by Meg (http://the-para-graph.b...Hi There,<BR/><BR/>Sent here by Meg (http://the-para-graph.blogspot.com) and wanted to delurk to say hello. I am very impressed you are pushing this issue politically. Maybe just a little of what you talked about will stick in this guy's brain, and next time the subject comes up politically, he'll have at least two and a half factoids to rub together. <BR/><BR/>And it's a sucky thing to have in common, but I also terminated a pregnancy after my baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18.Wabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11197718938974431186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-5528397497543364202007-08-16T07:18:00.000-04:002007-08-16T07:18:00.000-04:00Listen, it was courageous to say anything at all, ...Listen, it was courageous to say anything at all, but brick wall and butting heads come to mind, its not you luv, its them! you can only do your best, right, not your fault the world of politics hosts a bunch of naive twits, eh!<BR/><BR/>Good on ya!<BR/>XAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-18211583928430344062007-08-16T03:59:00.000-04:002007-08-16T03:59:00.000-04:00I'd have thumped him, I swear. Well done for stick...I'd have thumped him, I swear. Well done for sticking it out.Thaliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12125639207843989848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-22056340190733717332007-08-16T03:17:00.000-04:002007-08-16T03:17:00.000-04:00**smacking my own forehead**You're a better woman ...**smacking my own forehead**<BR/><BR/>You're a better woman than I am my love.... xMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433861868469484062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-14901803124299996002007-08-16T01:16:00.000-04:002007-08-16T01:16:00.000-04:00Firstly...major eye roll, must have taken patience...Firstly...major eye roll, must have taken patience to deal with that guy.<BR/><BR/>Second...you've got my vote!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07135144307292570188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-6447219201028202722007-08-15T22:56:00.000-04:002007-08-15T22:56:00.000-04:00Actually, as far as I know, the only things illega...Actually, as far as I know, the only things illegal in the U.S. are LIT and cytoplasmic transfer - both illegal due to religious nutters who don't understand the basics of science.<BR/><BR/>Pax,<BR/><BR/>MLOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-72029307820069378312007-08-15T21:18:00.001-04:002007-08-15T21:18:00.001-04:00Aurelia, you and your readers who noted that the U...Aurelia, you and your readers who noted that the US guidelines are jusst that guidelines, are correct. I guess I had convinced myself that what my clinic told me was "law" not just a protocol agreed on. Sorry about the erroneous bather. *smooches*DDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17864339996118337420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-50186412422432001842007-08-15T21:18:00.000-04:002007-08-15T21:18:00.000-04:00I guess he never dealt with infertility. Will you...I guess he never dealt with infertility. Will you email me the guy you bet with, totally for curiousity sake? <BR/><BR/>You rock, Aurelia. You are making this world a better place for women and infertiles. Thank you, my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-46992814910605941652007-08-15T21:10:00.000-04:002007-08-15T21:10:00.000-04:00I don't think there are any legislated rules in th...I don't think there are any legislated rules in the US - voluntary, yes - mandatory, no.<BR/><BR/>Run for office. If I lived 'round the corner from you, I'd vote for you.Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15460136246441367993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-63521713542124491532007-08-15T20:50:00.000-04:002007-08-15T20:50:00.000-04:00Holy cow, he's lucky you didn't reach across the t...Holy cow, he's lucky you didn't reach across the table and bash his head against it after that comment about "why don't they just have sex, it seems to work..." Sex works? You could have fooled me.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07000365791603789983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-64940271869945184552007-08-15T20:31:00.000-04:002007-08-15T20:31:00.000-04:00Have you ever considered running for office? You ...Have you ever considered running for office? You have such a strong voice you could probably make a difference in many important areas.<BR/><BR/>Good for you for trying and staying patient with that man.Knock Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05125786637648383934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-10500066867455963872007-08-15T18:17:00.000-04:002007-08-15T18:17:00.000-04:00So it sounds as if my RE uses the protocal, they a...So it sounds as if my RE uses the protocal, they are doing that out of sheer common sense, and not to get their names splashed in the paper as the moron who transferred 8 viable embryos.<BR/><BR/>At my clinic, they won't. At the clinic in MN, they won't. And you are probably very, very right and that they are following a guideline and not law.<BR/><BR/>I'll do some snooping for you, even if that means talking to my RE directly. I need to find out where I am on the list anyway so I can stress out some more.DDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17864339996118337420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-25740077239678833102007-08-15T16:56:00.000-04:002007-08-15T16:56:00.000-04:00DD, you didn't read that weird. I've been told rep...DD, you didn't read that weird. I've been told repeatedly by RE's, media sources, and even fellow bloggers that there are no rules on embryos transfers or any fertility procedures in the U.S.<BR/><BR/>Voluntary guidelines yes, by groups like the ASRM, but no laws per se.<BR/><BR/>Have to do some more research on that....got any idea where I would look?Aureliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13691032415028867902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-83410600947451038142007-08-15T16:44:00.000-04:002007-08-15T16:44:00.000-04:00FYI, and maybe I read that weird, but REs in the U...FYI, and maybe I read that weird, but REs in the US have limitations on numbers of embryos transferred by the feds. If the physicians do transfer more than recommendation, they have to document why (in my case, 4 transferred because two were shit). If they fail to comply, FDA can pull their licenses. So yes, doctors can be "ordered" to transfer only one or two if they wish to fight that battle. <BR/><BR/>However, I like the idea of free IVF coverage as opposed to free IUI/clomid cycles. <BR/><BR/>Aside from that - that guy was a total twit and I would have found it hard to keep from bludgeoning him with my stiletto. But then, I'm PMSing without the "P".DDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17864339996118337420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-44404578665464377092007-08-15T16:19:00.000-04:002007-08-15T16:19:00.000-04:00I think it's amazing that you didn't slam your for...I think it's amazing that you didn't slam your forehead down onto the desk. Repeatedly.<BR/><BR/>You really should get back into lobbying. A grassroots IF group would be fabulous.Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290007044439581358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-24257120433026334372007-08-15T15:43:00.000-04:002007-08-15T15:43:00.000-04:00I am impressed you walk into these sorts of meetin...I am impressed you walk into these sorts of meetings at all. I couldn't do it, or at least I don't think so. Maybe if I could mail it in, literally, I'm ever so much better in writing.<BR/><BR/>Educating the world on the realities of infertility... not an easy task... obviously.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528541804521203406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-3177103396030852792007-08-15T14:25:00.000-04:002007-08-15T14:25:00.000-04:00Thank you B., but I'm not sure I deserve the kind...Thank you B., but I'm not sure I deserve the kind tag.Aureliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13691032415028867902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-18611062637234079362007-08-15T14:23:00.001-04:002007-08-15T14:23:00.001-04:00And apologies for deleting your first comment, it'...And apologies for deleting your first comment, it's just that some politicians do daily blog searches for their own names. And if I'm slamming someone I want them to have earned it! HahaAureliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13691032415028867902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-84179916482542565112007-08-15T14:23:00.000-04:002007-08-15T14:23:00.000-04:00I just read your comment, Aurelia, you are so kind...I just read your comment, Aurelia, you are so kind.Beruriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07171541078529309991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-23390410662194288152007-08-15T14:21:00.000-04:002007-08-15T14:21:00.000-04:00Huh? This sounds like the most frustrating convers...Huh? This sounds like the most frustrating conversation ever. Why would he need to call you into his office to explain this simple information? Egad people can be so stupid. <BR/><BR/>And yeah, of course you can help the simpletons like this man, but also do a lot more actual good with your advocacy!<BR/><BR/><I>"Well, why don't they just have sex. It seems to work."</I> <BR/>I tried to think of a sarcastic response, but I'm just speechless. On what planet does he live?Beruriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07171541078529309991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30651776.post-70393910521701078002007-08-15T14:17:00.000-04:002007-08-15T14:17:00.000-04:00Unfortunately, yes, it was a feeble local MP. Alth...Unfortunately, yes, it was a feeble local MP. Although one who I used to think wasn't so feeble. I didn't mention names just because I'm wondering if the guy WAS depressed and I'm hoping he can help once he feels a bit better. <BR/><BR/>Don't want to slam anyone I could get some help from at a future date, right? :)Aureliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13691032415028867902noreply@blogger.com